Abortion !

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I think that we have a lot of people that have experienced a lot of hard things in their life, and, abortion is seemed to be a gift to them. That's what it appeared to be. A gift to free them from their uncomfortableness, free them from their their pain, but it is not it's a placebo. It does not change what happened to you, doesn't fix anything. All you do is compound the situation with creating the loss of a life.

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Wow.

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Whenever you hear that song, kingdom by my good friend over here, mister Marcus right there, he recorded that whole thing. That sounds pretty good. You know, next time you record something like that, first of all, I definitely wanna play the drums.

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Live. Live drums. Yeah. Always the best.

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I always look at electronic drums, and I say, you're never gonna take my spot. Okay? No. And I wanna I wanna I'm not a singer, but, if it's a rap song, if there's any rapping going on, I wanna be the guy that says, yo. Yo.

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Yo. I heard the yo in there. Okay. I can do that. Hey.

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Well, welcome back, everybody. We're so happy that you're joining us again. Okay? By the way, my name is Roy Resto.

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My name is Marcus Martin.

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I am Salt, and I am Pepper. Welcome to the Salt and Pepper show. Woo hoo.

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That's not the name, but

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it's No. It's not the name. So what's the name of our our our show?

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The God Class Pod podcast. And I said it slow because otherwise I would have ruined it.

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That's right. And I'm glad you said it because it's a tongue twister for me. Actually, it really is. Hey. Well, listen.

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Thank you for coming back. Our last show was on whether Christians should drink or not. If you didn't have the opportunity to see please make every opportunity to tune into that. I think you'll be blessed by it. And before that, what was the one before that?

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Our very first show was?

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Is drink no, not Is Drinking a Sand. It was sex Is before marriage a I'm sorry.

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Right. Right. Blankety blank blank. No. So that that was, is sex before marriage really a sin?

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Really a sin. Yeah.

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Yeah. So that the bibliography of all of our shows up to this point. So let's get started. So mister Marcus, what are we talking about today?

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Today, we're talking about the subject of abortion. It's a really, really major subject. It's a really sensitive topic that we wanted to discuss. We will not be political at all in this discussion. We will be very biblical.

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And so, just wanting to discuss the, the nuances of abortion and what the bible says directly or indirectly about it. So Roy has some things that he wants to share, and we're gonna let him start off with that.

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Yeah. So first of all, thank you for the political aspect of this. The topic has been so politicized. And pastor Marcus and I were busy practicing the word political Political ization. Political

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Okay. Yeah, got it.

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If there has been a topic subject to that, this is it. And the problem with politicalization of any topic is that people get emotionally involved in it. And it detracts from a calm review, a neutral review of the topic. So what we want to do here is just like, Marcus said a moment ago, we want to go over this, and speak about some very practical issues and some historical things that we're going to share with you here shortly.

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Alright. So I think I think one of the most important things to do is to establish whether or not a child in the womb is a human being. Right? You probably say that's that's simple. Right?

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That's simple to

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We say that today.

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Right. We say that today that that's a simple thing to establish. But according to scripture, I wanted to kinda establish some things. I'll probably have them put these scriptures up on the page. That way we don't have to read every one of them.

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But Genesis one and twenty six says, let us make man in our image and in our likeness. So there's when in creation, we are made in the image and the likeness of God. So with creation, we're not talking about an adult life. We're talking about in the forming and in the creation of man. We are giving some likenesses of God.

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So in order for us to be given the likeness of God, there has to be a quality of knowing or humanity to us. Psalms one thirty nine, you knit me in my mother's womb.

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Oh, that's a good one.

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You are already in connection with God. There is already some knitting taking place. There's already, some interaction between you and God in the womb. Jeremiah one and five, God knows us before he forms us in the womb. Even before you were in your mother's womb, he told Jeremiah, I knew you and ordained you a prophet to the nation.

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So before the baby is in the womb, he's already a prophet. She's already a prophet. So there's a designation on their life before they even enter the womb. Psalms one zero six and first Kings 21. It condemns the sacrifice of children.

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So it's the same the same concept. We have to understand that God sees this in a very clear way. He sees it in a very clear way. We are not here to condemn anyone. And as a matter of fact, in the end, we're gonna offer prayer because God forgives all sins.

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It's very important to to establish that right now, by the way. And excuse me for interrupting you. But, you know, in past episodes, you've heard us talking about how God has delivered us from certain things that were out of control in our lives, some sins and stuff like that. Absolutely. I wanna make clear right now that if you as a male, you have encouraged this with your mate or a female has has had this done.

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We are not condemning you at all. No. You have the opportunity for any sin to repent from that. So we need to establish that, okay? You are not to carry that burden with you, especially if you know the Lord.

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Absolutely. In talking with different women, I was given some questions. Right? And talking to certain women, they said, what if there is a situation of incest? Right?

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Why would a woman have to be forced to have a child by her father or by her brother or by someone who who took advantage of them? Even in a situation of rape, why would a woman have to be forced to have a child by someone who took advantage of them? And this is this is a very compelling argument. You know, this is a very compelling argument, but we are not into getting into the argument. We're getting to the Bible.

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What does the Bible say? Is this child a person? If this child is a person, then this child should not be killed, it is murder. And so I know it's difficult. Me as a father, I've experienced things in my life with my own daughters that made me very angry that I wish never happened to them.

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And so on that side, I probably would be in the same page, in all honesty, would be in the same page with those questions. Would say, God, do you expect? What do you think

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about that, Roy? Oh, wow.

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It's a heavy question.

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Well, you said some heavy things. You said some heavy things there for sure. We tend to focus on the negative aspects of abortion from a woman's point of view, but a lot of it is down to men. Okay? A lot of it's on the men.

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What I mean by that, okay? One of the things about fatherhood, maybe we'll talk about fatherhood in a different segment, you know. In my opinion, one of the reasons why fatherhood has been diminished so much in today's society is a lot of guys, they say, you know what, I made a mistake. I was lustful in bed. I made a mistake.

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I shouldn't have done that. Now she's pregnant. And the guy, it's the guy that tells the woman says, I'm not ready to be a father. You need to get an abortion.

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Yeah, true in most cases, yeah, absolutely.

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Okay, so let's not put it all on the women. Yeah. Okay, so I have to agree with you on that. One of the things I wanna share personally is, I haven't shared it with you so far, but I was adopted, all right? So my mother carried me all the way to delivery.

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I was put up immediately into a foster home, and immediately after that I was adopted. And it's a long story, okay? Other than, I'm here to tell you that that went for me personally, if abortion had been as popular when I was born, okay, I may not be here talking to you.

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Yeah.

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You may not be my friend. I may not be your friend. Absolutely. Okay? Because of that.

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Absolutely. And you know, so, from that point of view, I am not a supporter in any way of abortion from the practical point of view.

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Yeah. And if you look up, if you do your research and look up, some of the most profound and most important people in this world, they could have been aborted. There's a lot of people that could have been aborted that have done some some major things for this for this world, this United States. So no, I get where you're coming from. It's a very hard thing when you have the emotions tied to the act of the pregnancy, how it happened.

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But you know, when you look at it from the aspect of you never know who you could be aborting.

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Next president, next inventor of the cure for cancer, somebody that's gonna be a wonderful family member, whatever. Yep, I agree with that.

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There's another aspect too that I was hearing from different women. Them having to revisit the rape or the incest or the event that happened to them because of the existence of the child. And I feel for them in that aspect because how do you forget when you have a living human being that represents that? Well, I could tell you how. You stop viewing them through the eyes of rape.

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You stop viewing them. View them for who they are and not for how they got here. I'm a speaker and I preach at a lot of places, and so I don't think anybody when I get up to preach cares about how I got there. I don't I don't think nobody say, how was your flight? You know, was the peanuts good?

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I don't think anybody cares how I got there. All they care about is what I came to deliver. There you go. And I think there's a lot of people here that God sent in this earth to deliver something. And I think we have to look at the importance of what they came to bring and not how they got here.

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Oh my gosh. That's really good. That's really good. Well listen, I'm gonna introduce something over here and this is gonna take me a little while to speak about, okay? And you don't hear very much about this, but have you ever heard of a woman called Margaret Sanger?

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Okay. Okay. A lot of people have not heard of her. She's considered the founder of Planned Parenthood.

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Okay.

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Now Planned Parenthood has become the poster child for big proponent of abortions, and so they become like the poster child and a big target for people that are anti abortionists, okay? So I'm not here to get into the political aspects of that, not for sure, but we need to talk about this woman, Margaret Sanger.

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Okay.

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Okay, now over one hundred years ago, when she was very active. Okay. In promoting birth control.

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Okay.

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By whatever birth control there was when she was active. But she was very active in promoting birth control, okay? Now there's some aspects about Margaret Sanger. Now first of all, she was the founder of parenthood. There's some aspects about this woman that were interesting and that a lot of people debate.

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There's some things that are not debatable about Mark Sanger when you read her literature. For example, she was a leading advocate of eugenics. Eugenics being e u g e n I c s, Eugenics. You know what Eugenics is?

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I don't, but I've heard

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of it. Yeah. And you don't want to hear about

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it. Okay.

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So Sanger was a leading advocate of the Eugenics Movement, specifically of negative Eugenics, which promoted the reduction of sexual reproduction and sterilization of people with undesirable traits or economic conditions. That's what eugenics is. Eugenics would say, you're born mentally retarded, you need to be put out of your misery. That's eugenics. The last time eugenics was really popular was with the Nazis in Germany.

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I was just gonna say that. That sounds like the same thing when they tried to exterminate. The fact that she

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was a Eugenics supporter is not debatable. Now, the whole thing about sexual reproduction and birth control, okay? Well, she was very a big advocate of all of that stuff. And what is debatable, now there's some people that say she was a racist. Wow.

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Okay. Now racism was prevalent over one hundred years ago. Of course. A lot of people thought that way. So we gotta be careful that we just don't say that she was a racist as opposed to everybody at the time.

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Right. Okay, being a racist or having racist views. All right, so that's where a lot of the academics come in and they say, was she a racist and what she was doing or not, okay?

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Yeah, I can see the questioning of it because if you're trying you know, get rid of a a particular person or people that you think are not maybe value viable citizens, I could you could argue that she would think that way about different races and different people.

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So That's right. That's right. For a moment, let's give her the benefit of the doubt and say that her actions in birth control was not tied to racist things. By the way, one of the things that when people say that she was a racist, okay, when she made comments, for example, about the aboriginals of Australia, okay, so the aboriginals there in Australia, they were there before whites ever got there, and there were black tribes, and she described them in terms of their intelligence and behaviors as being a little bit higher than monkeys. That's not Roy.

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This is her saying that.

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Oh, absolutely. Okay.

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So people that say that she was a racist. Now I'm just building up to what I'm trying to present over here, because I still got a lot to go. So a lot of people that say she was a racist would quote that, that's saying, How can a person that says that not be a racist? Okay.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And there's people that say, No, she wasn't a racist. She was an advocate for birth control.

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Well, think that that was a common school of thought. I don't know if that was an original thought to her that black people were not human, were not fully human. That was a common school of thought. I don't think

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it was So let's give her the benefit of doubt then.

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Let's give her the benefit of doubt. That was not just her thing. She went down the

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road and she is considered the mother, if you will, of the whole thing with birth control and that led to Planned Parenthood, for example. Okay. All right? Now, we have to look to see what resulted from her actions. Okay.

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And whether they fit into a racist pattern or not. Okay. That's my question over here. And I need you guys to pay attention to this and do your own research. Alright.

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Do your own research. Don't don't take it based on what we say here.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I'm gonna present some interesting stories, some interesting statistics over here that came from neutral parties. They didn't come from the left or the right or conservative or liberal, didn't come from anywhere like they came from. These are sources that if you do your research, you'll be impressed with their genuineness. So let's talk about this, okay? 2022 was when Roe versus Wade was overturned.

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Okay? So let's look at the statistics that were available at that time, okay? The reason why I'm picking that year is because it's the last year because since Roe versus Wade, these ensuing statistics are probably gonna be a little bit different.

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What is Roe versus Wade? Some of us didn't pass civics class. Okay.

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Roe versus Wade, for those of you that are aware of it, that was the court case, I wanna say it was back in 1973, that established the legality of abortion. Okay, it established the legality of abortion.

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Yeah, making okay to go in and take the life of a child that's forming. What was the age of the child in the womb? Do you know?

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Okay, so it's gone. It's varied by state.

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State, so

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it's all over the map, actually.

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Got got Okay.

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Literally all over the map. Okay. So when I was doing the research, you see that different states allow abortions at certain terms. Some do, some don't. It's actually very interesting.

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Okay. A reflection of the state.

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Okay. Perfect.

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Okay. So 2022. Alright. The US population was 333,000,000. That's The US population.

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Now this is from the Census Bureau, the US Census Bureau. Out of those three thirty three million, 196,000,000 are white. So that's 59% of the population is white. Okay. 42,000,000 are black.

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That's 13% of the population. Okay. All right? 63,000,000 are Hispanic or Latino, whatever word you wanna use. Or 19%, that equates to 19%.

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Okay, all right. So you're black. Okay, so I wanna focus on that, Okay, now remember, I wanna answer the question, did Margaret Sanger's actions, what did it lead to? Whether you think she's a racist or not. Okay.

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Okay. All right. So also in 2022, the abortions that were being performed, do you think they were a reflection of the percentage of population? So in other words, if the population is 59% white, was it 59% abortions being performed by whites?

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You you would think it would be the population would reflect have to yeah. The greatest population would have the most abortions.

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That it would reflect that.

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You would think. You would think.

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Okay. If you think in statistical terms. Right? Yeah. So but it that's not that's not the case.

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That's not the case. In 2022, forty two percent, not thirteen percent, forty two percent of the abortions from blacks. Forty two percent. That's three times the percentage of the population. The population is 13%.

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Wow. And yet that's 42% of the Wow. That's almost half. That's less than half. 30% were white, and 22% were Latino.

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But I'm sticking on black, okay, because of the racist connection I'm trying, that may be presenting itself here, talking about abortions, okay. So now let me let me bring this up a little bit more, okay? How many abortions have been since 1973 have been performed? The total number. And this is round numbers now.

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Any guesses?

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Just a guess. I'll say 500,000.

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That's probably a low number. Extremely low. Wow. Okay. The amount of abortions that have been performed since Roe versus Wade is over sixty five million.

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Sixty five million. Okay, so now, I like numbers, right? So in our partnership, I'm the numbers guy, by the way.

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For sure.

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Right? Yeah, so I like numbers. And so I was doing this research. Do it yourself. Okay.

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Sixty five million. Now, if you take the forty two percent and you're saying that forty two percent of abortions are being done on blacks. Okay, forty two percent of sixty five million, you know what it comes out to? Okay, so you can almost do the math because it's almost half, right? A little bit less than half.

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It's 27,495,199 black babies were aborted. Twenty seven million.

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Since when?

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Since 1973.

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Goodness, those are twenty seven so many

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million, over twenty seven million. So first of I'd like to point out something. Today, in today's society, there's certain words that become popular and people start throwing them out like, they don't even know what the word means, but they're using the words. I remember during the COVID thing, if you presented any academic data that said not to take the shot, for example, they instantly label you an anti vaccine person. Yep.

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Okay, they put a label on you. And that's not true. That wasn't true, okay? Here just a few years ago, okay, if you said anything about what was going on with the riots and stuff like that, if you said anything against that, okay, instantly people calling you a racist, all right? And there's no way that people are racist, okay?

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In the same, not that many, there are racists in society.

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There are some.

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And there are some anti vaccine people out there.

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Yeah, the people that was like, all the chicken and mole liquor is gone. All the watermelon is gone. I'm joking. I'm joking. Yep.

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I know.

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Well, another word that's being thrown about is the word genocide today. Okay, and people that are using that word, wanna go up to them and say, excuse me, do you know what that word means, genocide? Do you know the historical context of what that means? And they don't know, okay? So once again, I'm telling you to do your research, don't use words or label people unless you've done your research and you know the historical context or the statistical context of what's being discussed, okay?

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Now, let's go back to the word genocide. If I told you around the world that 27,000,000 people were wiped out, were killed, would you say that's genocide? Absolutely. I would. Absolutely.

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I would. Okay. So for all of you using that word, you have to consider whether genocide has come upon the black people in the form of abortion. I'm saying that now that's going to be very controversial. Yeah.

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Okay. But I'm saying it and I'm not backing down from that. Okay. But you know, okay. So let me just conclude.

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Okay. For sure, just to conclude it and I know you're probably wanting to get into it. Was Margaret Sanger, was she a racist? I don't know if she was or not. But her actions apparently led to what somebody would say was racist.

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If I did that on black people, if I figured out a way that 27,000,000 black people would be wiped out, all right, for sure, you'd say Roy is a genocidal racist. People would say that for sure. So we have to look and lay that, whether we think Margaret Sanger was or not a racist, her actions and the political things she did to make people get into this whole realm right over here. I'm gonna lay it firmly at her feet that it appeared this that was the result of it.

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It just brings to to note the machines that we have in operation that we that we're not aware of. Right? Nobody does anything of substantial value to harm or to destroy any race of people. They never do it in one fell swoop. It's always done over a long systematic period of time.

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And you could point to different other things, but this is not the conversation really that we're having. But it was very interesting to see the effect of Margaret's Margaret, right?

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Yeah. Margaret Sanger.

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Margaret Sanger.

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Yeah. Sanger. Like, for those of you that wanna do your homework, do it. It's s a n g e r.

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Yeah. It's very interesting to see the effects of her decisions and the things that she prompted to take place. I think it's very interesting. I didn't know that at all. So I think I'm learning with everybody else that but to to get back to the core, the core of of what we're talking about, I think that we have a lot of people that have that have experienced a lot of hard a lot of hard things in their life.

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And abortion was, it seemed to be a gift to them. That's what it appeared to be. A gift to free them from their uncomfortableness, free them from their pain, but it is not It's a placebo. It does not change what happened to you. It doesn't, fix anything.

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All you do is compound the situation with creating a the loss of a life. And so I think it's sad. I think that there are certain things that's going to affect certain communities just by by way of how things are set up systematically. There's just certain things that's gonna affect certain communities. And I think, politically, we allow so much to go underneath our nose because we just don't do the research.

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And I'm speaking for, you know, black people. We don't do

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just to black people. I guarantee you that.

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That's true. That's true. But for for most for most citizens, we just take what the television tells us, and we just kind of just kinda go with this. So, yeah, I think that's a huge topic.

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No. I I agree. And, you know, you've mentioned a couple of times, you know, somebody gets raped or or or something like that. I first of all, for anybody that's considering abortion under any circumstance, by the way, pregnancies that result from rapes, for example, or something like that, or incest, The smallest minority of abortions are are for those reasons. All the majority of all the abortions are typically an act of fornication, unbridled lust, it was a mistake.

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Okay, that's what it is. But for whatever reasons, I'm asking you, whether you're a man and you're trying to determine the mistake was made, and how should I advise this woman, or you're a woman that you find yourself in that position, I'm asking you, please consider adoption. Please consider adoption. If you're thinking to yourself, I can't possibly be a mom right now. Well, you don't have to be.

[00:28:51] - [Speaker 1]
Put it up for adoption. I was adopted and I was very I grew up on welfare. Okay? And and I had a good life. There's plenty of people that have been adopted out there that have had good lives.

[00:29:03] - [Speaker 0]
And some people can't have children. There's people that like that'll be a dream come true. Absolutely. Perhaps your pain could become someone else's pleasure.

[00:29:12] - [Speaker 1]
Well, Marcus, do you know that here in The United States, there's lots of people that wanna adopt, and you know what they're doing?

[00:29:18] - [Speaker 0]
What's that?

[00:29:18] - [Speaker 1]
They're going to other countries.

[00:29:20] - [Speaker 0]
Yeah. Which is beyond me. It's beyond me. Okay.

[00:29:23] - [Speaker 1]
And you know help. Well, they're all being aborted. Okay, that's pretty cold, but those are the facts. Okay, children can be adopted, all right, and it might be your child. And you know, I was adopted and I went out of my way to figure out who my natural mom was and I was very happy.

[00:29:45] - [Speaker 1]
Everything turned out okay, know, it turned out okay, turned out good. My mother was not carrying a guilty burden for any of her actions after that, okay? Yeah. So anyway, do you have anything else to add?

[00:30:00] - [Speaker 0]
I wanna just state that we're not condemning anyone. Absolutely. And that's neither of our heart to condemn anyone of of their actions. As a matter of fact, there's no sin that God won't forgive.

[00:30:11] - [Speaker 1]
That's right.

[00:30:12] - [Speaker 0]
You you are forgiven. And so whenever you're ready, I I think we're we're closing unless you got some more info I'm good. To share. So let's pray. Let's pray for those

[00:30:20] - [Speaker 1]
Yes. Who are We need to.

[00:30:22] - [Speaker 0]
Who are maybe maybe dealing with the guilt of abortion. That's right. Dealing with, feeling like maybe they've let god down. Maybe they they could have made a different decision. We all have decisions that we could have done differently.

[00:30:36] - [Speaker 0]
There's no one sin bigger than the other. So let me pray with you. Father, in the name of Jesus, Lord, we pray for every individual that is involved, that's had either done an abortion or the father of the child that's had the child aborted. Father, we pray in the name of Jesus that you would forgive them of their sins. God, as they repent before you, father, we pray that you would wipe their slate clean.

[00:31:02] - [Speaker 0]
Yes. In the mighty name of Jesus. And father, I pray god that you would take away the overwhelming feeling of grief and replace it with joy. God, that you would take away the mourning, god, that you would give them beauty for ashes. In the name of Jesus.

[00:31:22] - [Speaker 0]
And father, we pray now that you would even receive those children, God, into your loving arm that were that have been aborted, God. That you would receive them because we understand that these children have a soul, that you would receive them into your loving arms, God. And that they would be represented in heaven, that we would be able to see and know that you have taken care of them well. Yes. And Father, I pray in the name of Jesus that you would touch this world, this this earth, this society, and shift the paradigm of abortion.

[00:31:57] - [Speaker 0]
Yes. Of giving up. I pray that you would help people to see a better way. In the name of Jesus. Father, we thank you.

[00:32:06] - [Speaker 0]
We praise you. In Jesus name.

[00:32:09] - [Speaker 1]
Amen. Amen. And Marcus, in case there's somebody out there that needs to know the Lord, I'm gonna say a prayer to close us down. If there's anybody out there where you think you need to know the Lord better or you need to come to the Lord to begin with, Lord, in the name of Jesus, repeat after me that, Lord, I am a sinner. Lord God, you died for me on the cross for me.

[00:32:38] - [Speaker 1]
Father, you shed your blood in my place, oh heavenly father. You are the Lord of Lord and King of Kings. I hereby acknowledge that you are the Messiah, and I acknowledge you as Lord of Lord and King of kings. Forgive my sins. My sins are hereby forgiven by my acknowledgment of Jesus Christ of Lord of Lord and King of kings, the Messiah.

[00:33:00] - [Speaker 1]
Yes, lord. In Jesus name, we just pray. Jesus. Amen.

[00:33:04] - [Speaker 0]
Amen. Alright. Well, thank you guys for watching. Until we meet again, you guys be blessed. Talk to you soon.

[00:33:13] - [Speaker 1]
See you. Take care.